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And you can't take it into WA state or California and a few other places. You also have to pay for a tax stamp and tell the ATF when you take it out of state.Aw heck, just find a cheepee Mossberg 500 and whack the barrel and butt stock off, shape some finger grooves in the pistol grip and you have a fine shorty shotgun!
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I actually owned the SG in the pic I posted. I won it in a card game.And you can't take it into WA state or California and a few other places. You also have to pay for a tax stamp and tell the ATF when you take it out of state.
Yeah, I thought you meant reduce the barrel below 18.5"I actually owned the SG in the pic I posted. I won it in a card game.
It was legal - not tax stamp required and I had no plans to take it to WA or CA !
It is now back to a standard length with a full stock.
Interesting. I did not know about this variation of AOW and how it works around the WA state SBS laws.Since I live in WA and can't have a true SBS I kind of want to get one of these. Just because.
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There are a bunch of different AOW available for a $5 tax stamp. It just has to start life as a unassigned receiver to fit under that category. Cadiz and now Fostech made their own Saiga-12 receivers to produce this type of semi-auto AOW:Interesting. I did not know about this variation of AOW and how it works around the WA state SBS laws.
This is getting into an interesting legal territory:
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I doubt it. Certainly not loaded - an AOW is not a handgun.So can an AOW be carried concealed in a backpack in Oregon?
I often find myself wondering why they don't just put barely there "rifling" in these barrels. Probably because you can't have a pistol actually chambered in shotgun loads? Exactly why the judge is a 45 colt, right? I have a single shot 9mm which might as well not have rifling but it's technically "there" I suppose...I doubt it. Certainly not loaded - an AOW is not a handgun.
Anything (except BP firearms and a few other exceptions like shotguns, and break open elephant guns in certain chamberings?) that has rifling and a bore over ~.50" is a "destructive device".I often find myself wondering why they don't just put barely there "rifling" in these barrels. Probably because you can't have a pistol actually chambered in shotgun loads? Exactly why the judge is a 45 colt, right? I have a single shot 9mm which might as well not have rifling but it's technically "there" I suppose...
The rules are a masterpiece of law school maze-making but for instance, we can't have this either:
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Not to derail the conversation, but I'm trying to understand the law. What about an AR15 pistol, or B&T APC9 pistol, or H&K SP5 pistol? Can those be in a backpack? Is there a different definition for handgun and pistol?I doubt it. Certainly not loaded - an AOW is not a handgun.
Legally a pistol is a handgun. But an AOW is Any Other Weapon and not considered to be a handgun with regards to a concealed carry permit - as far as I know. I can't think of any NFA weapon that is legal to carry "concealed" (like a handgun is with a permit) - but I could be totally wrong.Not to derail the conversation, but I'm trying to understand the law. What about an AR15 pistol, or B&T APC9 pistol, or H&K SP5 pistol? Can those be in a backpack? Is there a different definition for handgun and pistol?