Oregon Measure 114 litigation

[CamoDeafie]

The LGS still don't stock them, so I'm a bit perplexed why they wouldn't want to buy or even ask. I don't know. I'm thinking LGS's aren't doing too well right now.

Most likely because they don't want to end up having to liquidate their current overstock to the BATFE or other FFLs when M114 is upheld and enforced, along with possibility of ATF's "new FFL rules" severely affecting them?

 

[Indy62]

Most likely because they don't want to end up having to liquidate their current overstock to the BATFE or other FFLs when M114 is upheld and enforced, along with possibility of ATF's "new FFL rules" severely affecting them?

Yep..could be. I'll still wager that 114 won't go into effect though. It was a BS, transparent attempt to circumvent state law and any informed, non soft-brain person knows it.

But I've been wrong many many times before. Never surprised by mass-stupidity.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Yep..could be. I'll still wager that 114 won't go into effect though. It was a BS, transparent attempt to circumvent state law and any informed, non soft-brain person knows it.

But I've been wrong many many times before. Never surprised by mass-stupidity.

Just following ATF's lead

ATF Threatens to Prosecute Out-Of-Business Gun Dealers Who Comply with the Law

Internal ATF documents obtained by Gun Owners of America show that agency, once again, is asserting powers not given it by Congress. This time, to force out-of-business federal firearms licensees to turn over their remaining firearms...

www.ammoland.com

 

[arakboss]

WTF is wrong with Dad's fingers???

Now I now why this family is nicknamed the freak finger clan.

Mom's hand.

 

[arakboss]

Anyone recall the hours long lines at, for example Sportsman's Warehouse, to buy a gun during Measure 114? Or the frantic search to find a retailer with the right gun and willing to sell without waiting for a delayed background check?

I do, that was Nov/Dec 2022.

Different story now, I went into Tick Licker in Salem the other day to see if they wanted to buy my (new) firearms. They didn't even ask what they were, just said "no, we're not buying right now, we're supposed to keep 800 in stock..we have 1200"

How things have changed.

Sales have definitely slowed, big time. That means prices should be lower.

 

[solv3nt]

WTF is wrong with Dad's fingers???

Dad also has two left hands. I suspect this is an AI generated image.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Sales have definitely slowed, big time. That means prices should be lower.

Not really gonnna happen wit inflation

 

[Indy62]

Not really gonblna happen wit inflation

I'm no economist for sure but it all seems strange to me. Not just guns either. I always figured the law of supply and demand was cannon. But seems like supply is high for many things, demand is also high, but prices are not dropping.

 

[arakboss]

Not really gonblna happen wit inflation

From my experience, buying many of them recently, firearm prices haven't really been impacted by inflation. Prices are going to have to adjust to what people will pay or they won't sell. The buyer pool is shrinking and will continue to shrink as people lose employment and start worrying more about the economy. Firearms are luxury item for most people. Yesterday we sold two but bought three. At that rate our inventory will continue to grow.

 

[raftman]

Sales have definitely slowed, big time. That means prices should be lower.

Does the OR queue reflect this? I haven't heard recent figures.

 

[64MercurysRule]

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose. But you can't pick your relatives.

I thought it was "but you can't pick your friend's nose" ?

 

[arakboss]

Does the OR queue reflect this? I haven't heard recent figures.

The queue is still relatively high but the reason is unknown. It seems OSP is really dragging their feet. I think more FFLs are calling in BG checks and that takes more time to process them. There may be a spring break angle to it as well. Just not sure why they are slowing down. Compared to this time last year, transfers are way down. The supply of guns is much higher.

Edit: Rumor has it that Cabela's is now calling in BG checks, not sure if it's true but if it is that would really clog up the system.

 

[RVTECH]

Yep..could be. I'll still wager that 114 won't go into effect though. It was a BS, transparent attempt to circumvent state law and any informed, non soft-brain person knows it.

Kinda what I believe as well.

I think there were a lot of things that weren't taken into consideration - such as the massive loss of revenue from BGCs from the undoubtedly large percentage of people who most likely would not have pursued the 'permit to purchase' and other related requirements. I doubt I would have.

SB 941 was a real 'kick in the teeth' to me and my gun buying/selling/trading as most of what I did was FTF.

I bought a couple new since then but largely in part my interest was in good used, older and maybe classic stuff.

 

[sobo]

Now I now why this family is nicknamed the freak finger clan.

Mom's hand.

It also appears that this is an "Iwo Jima-esque" photo, as in why are there more 8 hands for 4 people...???

 

[ilikegunspdx]

It also appears that this is an "Iwo Jima-esque" photo, as in why are there more 8 hands for 4 people...???

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Wow that's weird. Body parts in all the wrong places wow kinda crazy. . Kind of reminds me of

View: https://youtu.be/yuoFsi2iIi0?si=36dRHSYll5hzyr6m

 

[coreymet]

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okay, Dad's hand is certainly weird. And Mom's looks as if it is not far behind!!!

 

[jayR]

After an extensive recursive search of the internets. I believe I've located the owner of the surplus phalanges.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

After an extensive recursive search of the internets. I believe I've located the owner of the surplus phalanges.
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My reaction at seeing that was exactly like Bluto in animal house:

View: https://youtu.be/MJ-f4Ij6ycg?si=pUU7Mi5qB20aby3p

 

[PiratePast40]

Just got the numbers from DOJ. So far, the state of Oregon has spent $3,759,702.92 defending itself against Measure 114.

Here's a letter I sent to my Democrat house rep. Sent a similar one to my D senator. Adjust as you see fit. Probably won't change any minds but might give you a little lift to let them know we're paying attention.


Dear Representative Anderson,

Through freedom of information requests, DOJ has been able to determine that, to date, $3,759,702.92 has been spent on the state defending Ballot Measure 114 in state and federal courts. You never asked your constituents if they wanted to spend the money to defend an unconstitutional measure.

It's really disappointing to see your party working overtime on it's agenda to dismantle the second amendment and attack law abiding Oregon gun owners.

You are constantly spending our money, but you never ask us if that's what we want. You wasted millions of our dollars on needles and drug paraphernalia, but did little to actually combat the importation and use of fentanyl that is actually killing people in Oregon every day.

I cannot, in good conscience, vote for you this election and will instead be voting for David Brown to take your seat and inject some sanity into the legislature.

Regards,

 

[CamoDeafie]

Just got the numbers from DOJ. So far, the state of Oregon has spent $3,759,702.92 defending itself against Measure 114.

Here's a letter I sent to my Democrat house rep. Sent a similar one to my D senator. Adjust as you see fit. Probably won't change any minds but might give you a little lift to let them know we're paying attention.


Dear Representative Anderson,

Through freedom of information requests, DOJ has been able to determine that, to date, $3,759,702.92 has been spent on the state defending Ballot Measure 114 in state and federal courts. You never asked your constituents if they wanted to spend the money to defend an unconstitutional measure.

It's really disappointing to see your party working overtime on it's agenda to dismantle the second amendment and attack law abiding Oregon gun owners.

You are constantly spending our money, but you never ask us if that's what we want. You wasted millions of our dollars on needles and drug paraphernalia, but did little to actually combat the importation and use of fentanyl that is actually killing people in Oregon every day.

I cannot, in good conscience, vote for you this election and will instead be voting for David Brown to take your seat and inject some sanity into the legislature.

Regards,

Good writing and well explained. Unfortunately it'll get a canned response and to be honest, none of these lawmakers care what the voters say; only what the voters do. as in get voted out, or keep being voted in, time and again, over and over. Term limits would help massively here, as would fixing the offices' salaries to the median income of voters.