Gun control laws do not apply to Native American reservations

[rjmt]

They should have gun ranges on the reservations where you can go to shoot full auto.

I hear full auto fire around me on private property every week, haven't heard of any BATF raiding parties yet
but i do understand, the BATF would rather harass private gun owners with no criminal history, that try to stop the gang shootings in Portland with Glock switches
there is a theory becoming more popular that our government is encouraging illegal gun violence so they can justify gun confiscation from the general public

 

[Pete F]

My friend was a member of the Hanky Tribe, at least 50%. A while ago, he became a Chief of part of the Tribe. HE WAS A HANKY CHIEF.

 

[gmerkt]

so, if a tribal member drive to Utah or Idaho to purchase such a firearm, then drive home to their tribal lands with it, who is Washington going to send onto tribal lands to confiscate it?
How is Washington State Law enforcement going to know?
private gun sales on gun broker are still legal in Utah and Idaho
there are no border inspection stations for firearms coming into Washington state
back in the day, when I worked in Spokane Valley, I would check gun broker from Idaho, drive across the border to Coeur D'alene, coming back, then drive back home with "stuff"

There are often what's legal and what's possible.

 

[gmerkt]

so, if a tribal member drive to Utah or Idaho to purchase such a firearm, then drive home to their tribal lands with it, who is Washington going to send onto tribal lands to confiscate it?
How is Washington State Law enforcement going to know?
private gun sales on gun broker are still legal in Utah and Idaho
there are no boarder inspection stations for firearms coming into Washington state
back in the day, when I worked in Spokane Valley, I would check gun broker from Idaho, drive across the border to Coeur D'alene, coming back, then drive back home with "stuff"

I hear full auto fire around me on private property every week, haven't heard of any BATF raiding parties yet

The situation is, we all know that there aren't sufficient law enforcement resources to enforce the many firearms laws on the books. I don't know that anti-gun legislators expect this. What they might be more apt to thinking is, this will take time to have eventual effect. In the meantime, laws on the books can be used as gotchas in random stops and other enforcement actions. The idea of gun patrols, inspections, just isn't part of it. Yet, anyway.

 

[rjmt]

The situation is, we all know that there aren't sufficient law enforcement resources to enforce the many firearms laws on the books. I don't know that anti-gun legislators expect this. What they might be more apt to thinking is, this will take time to have eventual effect. In the meantime, laws on the books can be used as gotchas in random stops and other enforcement actions. The idea of gun patrols, inspections, just isn't part of it. Yet, anyway.

agreed
back in 2019, I drove to California for a party on private land in Nor Cal and took an assortment of firearms and lots of ammo, most banned in California
my wife and i went through the California inspection station on I-5 coming out of the Syskiyou Mountains, 2 old people with gray hair riding in a Subaru
the Female inspection agent just looked a my wife driving the Subaru and waved us though

 

[Tlock]

Anyone know the difference between John Wayne and Jack Daniel's??

 

[Flopsweat]

Anyone know the difference between John Wayne and Jack Daniel's??

Hey, we're not in the Dark Humor thread ya know.

 

[Tlock]

Hey, we're not in the Dark Humor thread ya know.

Jack Daniel's is still killing Indians! Ya I know, it's one of my favorite jokes that's pg13

 

[gmerkt]

California inspection station on I-5 coming out of the Syskiyou Mountains, 2 old people with gray hair riding in a Subaru
the Female inspection agent just looked a my wife driving the Subaru and waved us though

Yes, nobody has started bubbleguming about profiling when it comes to old people. Of which I'm one, always get a pass in a Mercury Grand Marquis. Same thing at Fred Meyer and Walmart, they typically don't ask to see old people's receipts when going out the door.

Those Calif. inspection stations, aren't they just for agricultural stuff? Or are they on the lookout for other things? The ag. station is another thing that is more honor system than enforcement. I mean, if you really wanted to smuggle a case of mangos (or whatever), just leave them out of sight, it would seem. They ask and I guess they would inspect if they had reason to but probably don't actually search many cars. Trucks, probably. Big rigs with loads of ag. stuff, many.

Recently I was watching one of these shows about CBP inspections and the smugglers and crooks they catch. Lots of different scenarios are filmed, but I've noted several that involved animal parts and pieces. Meaning, hunting trophies and various animal bones and so forth. Lots of that stuff can't be brought across the border, some is downright illegal. Like whalebones found on a beach, because whales are a protected species. One hunter was trying to bring in some deer antlers and hides. The went over the hides with a fine tooth comb, found one single tick, and refused entry.

 

[Sxsnuf]

Good!, We've got plenty of blood-suckers from kommiefornia in or & wa already! They used to be such nice places to live.

 

[salmon creek gary]

the reason i looked this up is the Cowlitz tribe is purchasing more and more land in the area
something to do with $500 Million income from their Casino
they purchased undeveloped land within the City limits of La Center, the old dairy near Paradise Point and land along Salmon Creek in Clark Co.
the next time I'm on the Cowlitz reservation for gas, I'll stop by the Tribal Police office and ask for their policy

I applied some google-foo and came up with the Cowlitz Tribal Codes pertaining to weapons offenses. The web site states that the info is current a/o March 2, 2024. Very informative. It's not too long, and worth reading all of it.

In short, though: a valid Washington permit to carry concealed MAY cover you, as the Code's section 26.50.10 subsection 2(c) seems to except persons from the general prohibition if they hold a valid washington permit:
"(c) A person permitted under State and Tribal law to carry a concealed weapon . . . "
That word "and" in there is what seems troublesome to me. As always, the devil's in the details.

The same sort of devilish details apply to knives and other objects you might routinely carry for their potential defensive use.

 

[Spitpatch]

1) Certainly Whites on Reservation lands must conform to Tribal Law.

2) The most serious (and most overlooked) danger with "Send in your DNA" offers is the same danger as "registering" children (DNA and all) in some sort of "find my kid if he goes missing" offer:

Conscription.

The methods have been identical for thousands of years. Tools have changed.

 

[Mikej]

My friend was a member of the Hanky Tribe, at least 50%. A while ago, he became a Chief of part of the Tribe. HE WAS A HANKY CHIEF.

I'm a descendent from the Feckarwee tribe. They were a nomadic tribe.....

 

[Spitpatch]

I'm a descendent from the Feckarwee tribe. They were a nomadic tribe.....

Known for their chronic disorientation, and very hard to locate. Questions toward those occurrences may be misinterpreted.

 

[solv3nt]

Before anybody told me about this, I dry fired my Hawken a bunch. Then, when I went to put a cap on the nipple, it wouldn't fit. Fortunately, it was a relatively inexpensive/simple fix to replace it.

Take a wrench to your nipple, righty-tighty, lefty-loosey and take the mangled nipple off and put a new perfect nipple on.

 

[Mikej]

Known for their chronic disorientation, and very hard to locate. Questions toward those occurrences may be misinterpreted.

That's the one.

One of my old Dad's favorites back in the day.

 

[Mikej]

Take a wrench to your nipple, righty-tighty, lefty-loosey and take the mangled nipple off and put a new perfect nipple on.

Oooo

 

[solv3nt]

Man, it is so hard to say. My mom always claimed she was 1/8 Potawatomi. I thought she made that word up, but learned it is a real tribe. She had an old photo with one of my ancestors with his clearly Indian bride. So, for many years I told folks that I was part Indian. When enrolling my kids at school, there was a woman there inquiring into whether any of the kids had Native American ancestry. She was looking to hook people up with some type of benefit. I told her my kids probably had some ancestral ties, but we really didn't overtly embrace them and weren't looking to get anything based on that. She very pleasantly nodded and moved on to the next group of people. Fast forward about 15 years and my 20-something daughter takes on of those DNA tests. The report she received indicated she was pretty much a saltine cracker.

I honestly don't know. Could you get from 1/8th to less than 1/100th in two generations? Are those DNA test bogus? I do have quite a bit of artwork related to Native Americans. The End of the Trail is one of my favorite sculptures. I have even been known to quote Chief Joseph.

I didn't know you were related to Elizabeth Warren, Standing B****.

 

[Mikej]

Man, it is so hard to say. My mom always claimed she was 1/8 Potawatomi. I thought she made that word up, but learned it is a real tribe. She had an old photo with one of my ancestors with his clearly Indian bride. So, for many years I told folks that I was part Indian. When enrolling my kids at school, there was a woman there inquiring into whether any of the kids had Native American ancestry. She was looking to hook people up with some type of benefit. I told her my kids probably had some ancestral ties, but we really didn't overtly embrace them and weren't looking to get anything based on that. She very pleasantly nodded and moved on to the next group of people. Fast forward about 15 years and my 20-something daughter takes on of those DNA tests. The report she received indicated she was pretty much a saltine cracker.

I honestly don't know. Could you get from 1/8th to less than 1/100th in two generations? Are those DNA test bogus? I do have quite a bit of artwork related to Native Americans. The End of the Trail is one of my favorite sculptures. I have even been known to quote Chief Joseph.

Some Potawatomi info, incase you were interested. The plum trees grew in our yard as a border.

Utah Potawatomi Heirloom Plum Pioneer History and Modern Uses

Potawatomi plums in Utah have a rich Mormon pioneer history. The trees were planted and grown along natural waterways, canals and ditch b...

healthybiosphere.blogspot.com

 

[The Heretic]

the reason i looked this up is the Cowlitz tribe is purchasing more and more land in the area
something to do with $500 Million income from their Casino
they purchased undeveloped land within the City limits of La Center, the old dairy near Paradise Point and land along Salmon Creek in Clark Co.
the next time I'm on the Cowlitz reservation for gas, I'll stop by the Tribal Police office and ask for their policy

Purchasing land does not, in and of itself, make that land part of the reservation or subject to their rules/regs/laws.