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Yeah I'm not looking to do a bunch. I have 2 ar 15 lowers and 1 ar 9 I want to do. Maybe a 308 in the future.After the fist couple on the 5D I can turn them out in about 30min. Or so. Mill is great but unless you buy used it's going to be 5-6 times more than the 5D complete set up with .308 conversation and router.