Yes, hunter harvest.Is that number just hunter harvest?
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Yes, hunter harvest.Is that number just hunter harvest?
This doesn't make sense. I'm not a biologist so I'm wide open to learning, but given the depredation damage to already decreasing ungulate population and increasing cougar population the overall quota of 970 is way low, theres no reason for that low of a quota.It doesn't look like the quota is the limiting factor. The last several years show 350 or fewer annual reported harvest.
Yes, I'm sure you're right. ODFW doesn't provide much insight into their figures for "non-hunter" mortality. Likely many kills not reported also. But it doesn't look like the quota is a constraint for hunters. I guess more of us should get out there after some cats.Roadkill and livestock damage are 2 big factors when it comes to state take too
That involves them dislodging there heads from there a$$! Pretty big ask from something ran by the state of OregonThis doesn't make sense. I'm not a biologist so I'm wide open to learning, but given the depredation damage to already decreasing ungulate population and increasing cougar population the overall quota of 970 is way low, theres no reason for that low of a quota.
And the documented low hunter success rate is an indicator the state could do more to encourage cougar hunting like eliminating the cougar tag requirement until their quota is met.
I suspect that the anti-hunters have ODFW's head in a noose. As if suggesting hunting as a management tool would lose their jobs. It seems like the current strategy is that hunting is allowed only as a byproduct of "successful" game management.That involves them dislodging there heads from there a$$! Pretty big ask from something ran by the state of Oregon
Yeah, I was thinking there's really no reason to get too worked up about the quota. From what I've observed over the years the quota is rarely reached, probably never reached in certain zones. The quota is for both hunter and non-hunter mortality. I just Googled "ODFW cougar quota" and the first result shows the quotas and mortality as of November 10, 2022. The overall quota is 970 and the mortality is 433. That left a lot of cougars to kill by December 31st. I'm willing to bet that didn't happen. All zones were still open and the closet zone to filled was Coast/N.Cascade. It still had room for 34 more cats before year end as it shows 146 mortalities vs. quota of 180. The other five zones only showed around 20% to 55% of the quotas filled.It doesn't look like the quota is the limiting factor. The last several years show 350 or fewer annual reported harvest.
I think I get where you're coming from. Even if 100% of the quotas were filled, that would still leave too many cats. I'm just saying the quota could be 6,500 and it wouldn't really matter because without dogs the mortality rate is too low anyway. If we're not reaching the quotas, raising them isn't going to help.I still dont get why the overall quota is so low. We have over 6500 cats now and their numbers are growing.
I get that, but the low quota is sending a different message than helping ungulate populations grow.If we're not reaching the quotas, raising them isn't going to help.
They do the same in the cities with criminals. Let them run free..Gov doesnt want you to eat. They want you to stand in line and beg for crumbs. Thats why the predators are allowed to run free and un checked.
The cormorants up there where raising hell with salmon smolts for year. They did finally go in and take nest and kill adult birdsThey do the same in the cities with criminals. Let them run free.
They allow the same with our salmon and steelhead. Let the predator's live free to decimate the fish and destroy moorages. Even the ones such as the terns that nest by the thousands on the man made dredge spoil islands on the Columbia. When they did try to add predator's to kill the eggs on those islands the rabid earth muffin's had a fit and were able to stop them.
I know they work on the cormorants sometimes. There was a show, on a hunting channel I think, where they were shooting them around the Astoria-Megler Bridge. They are rotting the metal with their feces. And they used to, maybe still do, have volunteers that would haze the cormorants in Nehalem bay. I doubt it's something you can just do, and they won't come back. They will come back. And seeing as our state no longer views hunting and fishing as really important, they'll allow it all to go away.The cormorants up there where raising hell with salmon smolts for year. They did finally go in and take nest and kill adult birds
Your 100% correct. It's putting a band-aid on a severed arterie. Plus they spend way to much of the tax payers dollars to get the job done when hunters could go wack the rants just as easy. No good to eat but really fun to shootI know they work on the cormorants sometimes. There was a show, on a hunting channel I think, where they were shooting them around the Astoria-Megler Bridge. They are rotting the metal with their feces. And they used to, maybe still do, have volunteers that would haze the cormorants in Nehalem bay. I doubt it's something you can just do, and they won't come back. They will come back. And seeing as our state no longer views hunting and fishing as really important, they'll allow it all to go away.
I originally voted for that dog ban. I'm kind of ashamed to admit it. And fully ashamed that I voted that way. I was looking at it as not sporting. That wasn't for me to decide. The numbers were considered and there was no danger of destroying the cats all together. I was was wrong! NOW I wish they would allow dogs again and issue licenses for outfitters and/or the general public to hunt how they wish in the areas where populations are causing problems. But that makes sense, so Oregon wouldn't do that.Your 100% correct. It's putting a band-aid on a severed arterie. Plus they spend way to much of the tax payers dollars to get the job done when hunters could go wack the rants just as easy. No good to eat but really fun to shoot
That's the dumbest thing ever. Rich guys out there that would love to pay big money to shoot a cougar out of a tree. Instead the state pays someone to do it. :head shake:the state and feds use tax money to hunt them with dogs