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@284guy, Location, location, location. This river draws from the valley and elsewhere those that bring a certain lack of ethics with them due to it's close proximity to larger cities, not that some of the locals are beyond reproach, as many are just as guilty. One need only take a day trip into the countryside surrounding the larger metro areas to see the garbage dump sites, or to witness the activities that take place in these areas daily to make one long for further distances from such places, but that is the reality of it. While I agree it's "dirt bag central" during salmon season, this little river is far to beautiful to just give up on. Through diligence there are ways to affect change. Many on this river are becoming passionate about changing the tactics and techniques that have become far to common here, and there more than just a few that are willing to take a stand and make that call to the OSP when these activities are taking place. Yes there are risks involved, but where does it stop? The local state troopers are more than willing to respond to any call they receive and they really appreciate the effort. Through education there more than just a handful that have been convinced that there are far more productive and satisfying ways to pursue their piscatorial endeavors. Slowly at first, and now in greater numbers we are seeing far more bobber/bait fisherman and hardware pitchers than just a few short years ago. And while I agree that it's not the rig that's the problem, it would be a shame to see it outright banned due to the lack of ethics of those that use it to poach fish, Washington has already done so on many rivers. A spin glow with eggs or chunk of tuna belly in the egg loop can be a very effective bait indeed! I would implore of you to come back and join our ranks, because it is you and your passion that are needed. If you just give up and walk away without attempting to influence those that employee such behavior,, how long will it be before they end up on a river or creek near you? As a side note, and out of curiosity,, that guide that you referenced,, is he a tall lanky fellow? I do hope to meet you on the river sometime,, John.